I'm sure by now everyone has realized just how interactive this forum can be with so many different kinds of people and personalities. Obviously everyone has varying style in opinion based on what makes good music actually enjoyable. For some, that consists of extremely fast guitar solos, while for others it may be the range and technicality of performing that specific sound. I wanted to ask in particular here because I realize a lot of you have very good taste in music and respectfully know the vast differences between a fine piece of work to something of less quality.

So really get to the core of this subject. There must be some reason why no one here listens to emo music, but me and Pat. What is it that draws you away from certain music..ya know..mix up your answers with questions of your own that I may have not fully covered. Give this topic some depth if you will. I want to hear your thoughts.

I'll probably state my reasons later so I won't get bashed early for liking the emo genre.

ZAM

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You said it for yourself: What to you may be mere immaturity and lack of understanding of love, may be to others, emo musicians, a form of expression to reemphasize their feeling towards a person. Emo music is a reflection on the band itself. They create the music because they believe in a common purpose, not because they simply want you to hate them even more.

The generalization you are making is obviously not true. Are all emo songs meant to target low-self esteem, angered teenagers? I think not.

I honestly think you have something against emo people in general instead of the music genre. Do you think I am cry in a corner and only pay attention to the harsh aspects of life? Thats a fairly big accusation aimed at people you hardly even know. I don't think you are able to make that statement. I could just as call you and everyone on this site and introvert because you browse an online art forum. Does that say for everyone? Far from it. So for you to aim your opinion that all individuals who listen to emo music are "people who feel so poorly about life are ignorant to the joys in life" clearly indicates you lack of tolerance of emo people and culture. I don't think this has to do anything with music to you.

Personally, this is not where I wanted this thread to go. Instead of bashing all members in a class (emo genre), I was looking for what distinguishes well-performed artists from inexperienced ones. A variance in sound quality? Originality? Crowd activity during concerts? Drum solos at the end of the song? Group membership? A group aimed to promote a common purpose? The list could go on. You did the direct opposite.

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You asked...

...And I gave you a well thought out, well constructed answer. I might be so bold as to add to the fact I was not putting anyone just. Just merely using my powers of observation, not once did I say their music was horrible, nor did I put anyone down. I only remarked upon the fact that they choose to NOT look on the lighter sides of live and sing about the darker, sadder parts of it. I was saying that true artists will make art with their soul, therefore showing their true feeling at the time and place. If all you can sing about is how bad life really is (I assume that's why the call it "emo" music.) then this is but a reflection of your self in verse, and song? And people such as this must have a low self-esteem?

You asked as to why people do not listen to "emo" music, I more or less told you why I don't. Here you are defending yourself and music, when I neither attack you or it. You asked for an opinion and I gave you well thought out one, if you cannot handle that, then simply ignore my post and move on.*

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Does music mean emo?

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Well i LOVE emocore and hard rock and death metal... mainly because of the guitar skills and the vocal ranges. Its so intense the routines these guys have to go through in able to hit certain notes and scream correctly. Even though it might not sound appealing to some people I find it highly interesting and fun to listen to.

Some bands: A thorn for every heart, Drop Dead Gorgeous, Emarosa, Blessthefall, Before their Eyes

But see that is not the extent of my love for music. I also highly enjoy hip hop and some rap, as well as some country and what not. The fact that people categorize music into genres is great to help distinguish between types of music, and to help find stuff your interested in. However i think some people take it to far when they're judging genre's they don't understand or don't like.

Open your minds and listen for the creative aspects of music, much like you would examine art

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:-)

I thought I was the only purevolume junkie.

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I used to be into the screamo shit back when it wasn't so common.

Now all the bands just sound the damn same.

The only bands I continue to listen to that I did all those years ago is The Receiving End of Sirens, Glassjaw, Thursday, and Thrice.

And those bands aren't even really screamo in my eyes, because they have always had thier own sound.

But bands like Hellogoodbye and Cartel I think are bullshit, I'd rather take shitty screamo over borderline boy bands.

It's like the new thing is to be as gay as possible without actually being gay, such a stupid scene.

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Also.

More on topic.

I believe "good" music is any music that stands out to your ears and you enjoy listening to is considered good.

There can't really be one band that sticks out to every different person among the entire world.

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I'm 95% sure this sentence was sarcasm, and I base that certainty heavily on hope.


As for my tastes, I'm a lyrics kind of guy. I'm not really concerned with genres these days. Genres are like different types of story-writing (short, novel, etc.) or different forms of poetry.

That is important though, as the genre reflects the artist. For example, The Decemberists performing Nas lyrics might be a little odd. Emo music can potentially be good so long as there's actual substance and not just mindless bitching.

The sheer sound is also a factor, and influences what phase of musical interest I'm in as well. I can't exactly explain what in terms of sound appeals to me but I certainly know it when I hear it.

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It was.


So yeah, originally two seperate posts, and only the second was pink, so it was obvious it was sarcasm, but yeah. Vic's an idiot.


And I still contend that emo is boring because it isn't beautiful.


Then again, I also listen to extremely insane noise bands, like Merzbrow and Boris, and then insane shit like John Zorn, but that's for the whole pseudo-intellectual value of listening to something that is largely anti-music.

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what makes music good is how high it is on the charts.

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there is so much good music, floating around, both mainstream and underground, if i hear something that i can rock out to, i listen to it, simple as that, doesn't matter if it's the only good song by a band or the only good band from a genre. music that draws you in is the best.

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